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November 2005

VISIT TO THE SHELTER OF TG-JIU IN ROMANIA 25.-27.11.05

I could write a novel about this visit but it would took too long. I would like to add to this report all the feelings and emotions we went through but I am afraid that I am not enough talented to do that. I can assure everybody that even we saw sadness and comfortless we saw also happiness and joy and where ever is people like Carmena and Patricia there is always hope.


We had waited this visit very eagerly and finally we arrived to airport of Bucharest in Romania on Thursday afternoon 24.11.05. Patricia was waiting for us and after hugs we loaded our luggage to the car and hoped that there would not be huge jam in Bucharest. But there were - it took almost two hours to get out of the Bucharest. Well, we spent the time talking about many important things and tried to see what kind of city is Bucharest. It was so dark that we only could see a lot of cars trying to crawl forth.
Finally we get rid of jam and the darkness was tightening. I think that the darkness was relief for me because I had been afraid what I am going to see on our way from Bucharest to Tg-Jiu. My companion Jukka was so tired that he fell asleep soon after we reached the motorway. I said to Patricia that you are an excellent driver because Jukka never sleeps if I am driving.

When we were driven half of our way to Tg-Jiu Patricia slew down the speed of the car and told that in the morning when she had driven to Bucharest she had seen little puppies just beside the car road and had stopped her car and moved puppies on the other side of the road to more far from road. Patricia thought that she had seen also the mother of those puppies around. It was so dark that first we could not see anything but suddenly we saw a small darkish heap on the grass and went to look closer.
And there they were - three little puppies nestled against each other. It has rained all day long and puppies were wet and felt cold. We did not see their mother anywhere and decided to take them with us. I had with me a bed for dogs and took it out of my luggage and in the bed those three little ones rested during the rest of our way to Tg-Jiu. I felt so touched when I caressed puppies and felt how they trusted on me and licked all the time my fingers.
I think that founding those puppies was so deep moment for me that I could not talk much during the rest of the journey to Tg-Jiu and I am sure that Patricia understood that.
We arrived in Tg-Jiu on Thursday evening Patricia and went directly to hotel in Tg-Jiu because it was too late to meet Carmena.


On Friday morning Patricia collected us from hotel and we went first to Carmena's and Patricia's little house to meet also Carmena and the pets of these two women. We were warmly welcomed by Carmena and 30 animals of the house ( 25 dogs, 3 cats and 2 rabbits). First to welcome us was Marc whose back legs are paralysed but it did not stop him to be everywhere. Marc had so much energy and joy and strength that it would be have been enough for a moving mountains.
Inside of the little house of Carmena and Patricia we found also a little Bursu who was attacked by other dog and he could not walk anymore. Two vets have made x-rays to Bursu and diagnosed that his spinal marrow has compression. Little Bursu would probably need neurologist and surgeon but for now he will have a total rest and if there is no improvement we hope that we can help somehow if there is even a tiny possibility for Bursu e.g. doing him a surgery.

It is very touching to realize how full of life and love Carmena's and Patricia's house is!

After a lunch made by Carmena and after feeding other 7 dogs in the courtyard of the house across we were ready to go to the shelter.
We would have liked to spent much more time with all those lovely pets of the house but there were hundreds of dogs waiting for us in the shelter. We took with us three puppies who we had collected on the way to Bucharest to Tg-Jiu on Thursday evening. We took also with us Bobi whose stitchings were opened and Carmena and Patricia tried to get the vet to sew the open cut again.


When we drove to the shelter through the city of Tg-Jiu we realized that people there live quite primitively and the standard of living is far behind to that we have used to e.g in Finland. It is very difficult to think that Romania would like to join European Union. We drove first to the hospital to collect some food left over and Carmena fed again puppies and adult dogs living in hospital area.

When we arrived to the shelter of Tg-Jiu we saw first plain white building and beside the building was the shelter. In the first sight the shelter seemed so small - regarding that inside would be almost 400 dogs. The shelter area is 1000 square metres - without the storeroom -so it is not so small than it seems in first sight. The fenced area of the shelter was divided in two different parts. Both parts have the courtyard in the middle where dogs can run free from the morning until the evening. In both sides of courtyards were roofing shelters where was pens for about four dogs in each. Gavin from Wetnose has described the broad overview and facilities of the shelter so they can be red in his report because they were very same than during his visit an year ago.

We stayed a while in the front yard of the shelter and met some guardian dogs. They were very friendly to us and I think that it was only because we came with Carmena and Patricia.
I saw that inside the shelter started to be very curious noses coming closer to the fence and soon I asked Patricia that can we go inside the shelter and in we went. We were immediately surrounded by numerous friendly furry tails and wet noses and enormous friendly barking. I did not feel fear at all - I was totally confided that I am surrounded only and just only with my friends. And that how it was, we spent hours in the shelter and I did not see any unfriendly face during our stay.

It was so great experience for me who has used to see also shelters where dogs are kept in chains all the time or in closed kennels without any exercise - only when volunteers will come and take dogs out for walking. Of course we were curious that isn't it disaster if males and females are running free in the same courtyard but after Carmena and Patricia told that females are neutered very soon after they enter to the shelter we were confirmed that there is no need for doubts.


We did not see skinny or unhealthy dogs. Only those who had just arrived were in bad conditions. I have seen plenty of photos taken in shelter just after arriving in very poor condition and photos after Carmena has given them care and love. The recovering is so amazing that I do not have words for it. We saw e.g. female Mura in storehouse who was saved last summer with huge vaginal tumour. When we saw Mura during our visit she looks very well and there is no signs of any kind of tumours or illnesses in her body. Mura takes care of orphan puppies in storehouse and is very good and needed mother for them.

I think that we were like in wonderland. Even we had heard that dogs of the shelter are in good hands but we never would have been understood it if we haven't visited there. It is not just that dogs get enough food and water - it is that they get also love and care. And it can be seen very well in the faces and behaving of the dogs in shelter.

In the storeroom beside the shelter are staying puppies and sick dogs. Even the building is very flimsy and facilities are basic there is an other amazing world. Plenty of puppies in different ages, old and sick dogs, some females taking care of puppies - and Carmena cleaning, caring, loving, feeding, nursing etc. etc. She seems to be everywhere working and working.
There were two men in the shelter helping Carmena but it seemed that they just did the tiny part of that work what Carmena did. It is very difficult to get good workers to the shelter because the salary is not so huge and the work is very hard.

This is very important matter and we - supporters - should be committed to help Carmena and Patricia financially so that they can pay proper salary to the workers if they find good ones to work in the shelter.

The shelter area as well as the storeroom are constantly cleaned. There is running water coming in shelter area and it is very important to keep ground as clean as possible. It is not easy and I just can imagine how difficult and hard it can be in wintertime. In the storeroom I saw a big heap of used clothes and blankets. They are meant to keep puppies and sick dogs warm and those clothes are changed every day to clean ones. Fortunately, this summer a French Foundation donated to the shelter a washing machine but before Carmena washed clothes and blankets by her hands.

In the storeroom, small puppies ,sick and old dogs have food all day long. In the real shelter, puppies and dogs for recovery have the food twice in day and the healthy dogs get food every afternoon. It is very important to have enough food for those dogs because I can imagine that if there would not be enough food for those dogs there would be constant fights among the dogs. Now they know that everyone will get enough to eat and they do not have to fight for it.

Some part of the dry food needed in shelter have been donated by Brigitte Bardot foundation, about 2 tones every two or three month. The shelter receives also about 2 tones every month from a Romanian-German association from Pitesti city. The need for every month is more than 5 tones of dry food ( the food is made in Romania and its quality is not very good). Brigitte Bardot foundation has not informed yet that do they continue the donation of food for the shelter during next year.
That is why, in order to be enough food, besides the dry food, the food from the hospital or from a highschool canteen sometimes, they buy bread, rice, milk powder, bones, rest of vegetables and cook in the storeroom.
To make sure that the dogs in the shelter will stay in very good condition and healthy we - supporters again - have to assure that there is enough food to feed all the dogs in shelter.

Some words about the medical facilities in the shelter and getting help from vets in the city of Tg-Jiu. As you might already know there is not proper facilities in the shelter for e.g. surgeons. Carmena is very qualified person to give treatments for dogs excluding surgeons. In the summer time there is tiny possibility to organize e.g. neuters in the storeroom but in very poor conditions.
In the city of Tg-Jiu there is only one vet who can do neuters and surgeons professionally. Neutering the dogs are one of the most important things in the shelter and it is annoying that Carmena and Patricia have to face difficulties in that part also.
There have to be effort again from supporters to help Carmena and Patricia to get some kind of proper solution also to this problem.

Usually Carmena works very late to the evening in shelter but during our visit she left the shelter about 8 p.m. We went together to have dinner to Patricia's and Carmena's house and were again very much welcomed by all the little dogs of the house. We had very warm and delicious moments with Carmena and Patricia and their numerous pets. It was so much to talk about.

On Saturday morning we went to the bank to deposit donations we brought with us to the account of Pro Animals Romania. It was a very confusing experience because the officer in the bank started to questioning Patricia from where the money has come and why etc… The bank was full of people and everyone could hear the loud discussion made about the donation. We had to justify that the money is really donated and targeted to the dogs of the shelter of Tg-Jiu. After Patricia explained that it is very difficult to Romanians to understand why somebody want to help stray dogs instead of people.

After visiting the bank we went to see the land Carmena and Patricia have managed to buy and to where they would like to build the new own shelter. The land situated near dump place and around there were numerous stray dogs wandering all around trying to find something to eat. We started to walk near to the peace of land which had already measured with sticks for the new shelter building by Patricia and her grand father and when we get to the land we experienced a huge surprise. The land was ploughed upside down and all those measures were disappeared. It was shocking how someone could have done that and then I was thinking that do anything can be done in this country easily without facing difficulties and fighting. I felt so sad and hoped that if I just could have the power to help more Carmena and Patricia.

Then was a time to go again to have a lunch made by Carmena and soon after we went back to the shelter, going first to the hospital as we did day before. First thing after coming to the shelter was to run to the store room to check how are those little puppies and other dogs staying there. Puppies were fine and I was so glad that Mosu could stand up and he had eaten much just before I arrived. Puppies had taken their places with other youngsters and I was so sure that lovely "mother Mura" was taking care of those new puppies as well as she had taken care of other orphans before.

Time we went inside the shelter went as same as day before. We were surrounded with friends and had very touching moments with them again. Carmena found a new dog inside the shelter and she thought that someone had thrown the dog over the fence during night. The dog was very skinny and had skin problems but fortunately was eating very well when Carmena offered food. That happens all the time - dogs are abandoned to the shelter too often. It was miraculous how well other dogs had taken the newcomer inside the shelter. In other circumstances they could have killed the new one.

After the darkness came and dogs were fed was time to us to say goodbye to the dogs of the shelter. I had to go to say goodbye also to my three puppies and Mosu and Igor and Mura and Marcela and all other friends in the store room.

In the evening we were again invited to have a dinner with Carmena and Patricia. The evening was full of unforgettable moments and we felt that it would be difficult to say good bye the very next day. All the little dogs of Carmena and Patricia were waiting for a chance to be near us and tell their story and gratitude to being saved from the streets to that little house of love and care.

On Sunday morning Patricia came to our hotel and we went to say good bye to Carmena and have a quick breakfast before it was time to leave Tg-Jiu and drive to Bucharest with Patricia. Weather was very beautiful and in daylight we could also admire views to the mountains and little villages beside the road. Unfortunately on the daylight we saw also things which made us sad. Numerous and numerous dead dogs on the road - probably hitten by cars. And every day there is coming more and more dead dogs. Patricia told us that in Romania there is much more stray dogs than dogs at homes. And most of those dogs who are at home are guardian dogs. We saw also men in the fields with guns and when I asked why are they there with guns Patricia told me that she thinks they are hunting dogs.
It took only 4 hours to drive Bucharest and there were no jams on the way. Patricia wanted to come with us to the airport and stay with us until we had to go to the checking. We hugged tight and promised that we will meet again very soon.

We spent a lot of time in the shelter in two days and would remember our staying there forever. We promised to Carmena and Patricia that we will return and will do all we can to help them to keep the dogs in the shelter and at their home alive and in good health. The work Carmena and Patricia are doing is so hard and there is no time for resting that we are very worried about how long will Carmena and Patricia hold on.
If they loose their hope or their health those dogs in the shelter and in the city of Tg-Jiu do not have anything. The dogs just can not survive without these two wonderful women. We hope from the bottom of our hearts that animal lovers and associations all over the world would wake up to help Carmena and Patricia. We promise that it is worth to do.

We want to thank Carmena and Patricia for the hospitality and emotional moments we spent with them as well at their home as in the shelter. We are constantly watching video clips and photos we took during our visit and feel very strongly that we have to get back very soon. We saw that Carmena and Patricia are real animal lovers and they put the well being of the dogs in the shelter, at their home and in the city ahead instead of their own well-being.

Carmena and Patricia both are very well educated women and if they just wanted they could take benefit to increase their own wealth status. But they have chosen to help stray dogs. Carmena and Patricia have earned every kind of support from us we ever can give them. We truly respect and admire them.

I and my companion Jukka have recently settled up an Finnish association Pro Animals Finland ry. Our association has been settled up to take an effort to help Pro Animals Romania to take care of the dogs in the shelter of Tg-Jiu and support Carmena and Patricia on their way to build own private shelter to the land they have managed to buy.

KIIA VASKO
Pro Animals Finland
www.panfiry.net

JULY 2005

COME BACK TO ROMANIA IN JULY 2005!



'' Patrick Sacco , Christian and I left France , Wednesday the 20th of July 2005 and we arrived to Belgrad 24 hours later .
Saturday the 23rd of July 2005 , we left Belgrad to go to Tirgu-Jiu to meet again Carmena and Patricia that we've met for the first time in July 2004 and with ones we were stayed in contact all that year.
It is with a lot of enthusiasm that this year we went to Romania , whose welcomed us with the sunshine and temperatures dog-days for all French people ; this time the horde of mosquitoes whose attack us from Carpates . Maybe it is the way that Dracula has to whish us welcome !


We arrive to PRO ANIMALS 's shelter where 350 dogs welcome us , those from last year and the new ones ; because in Romania there are so less adoptions but so enormously abandons . Right away our looks turn to a black dog whose rubs against the enter wiring from left to right and from right to left then turns around by little stereotypes circles .
Little angel who have suffer what we claim the so mean Human Being from which one you have tasted the blackness soul , you have been beaten up to death and tortured , today again persists in the deep of your flesh the after-effects mirror of the value of Humanity ; this text is dedicated to you and to all your unfortunate friends . So mean Human Being who shines by so much cruelties , bullshits , cowardice you have non credibility to me ! this silence deafening of the so mean Human Being mass turn up me so much.

It exists all the same stupendous people like Carmena and Patricia who live in hard conditions and who have devoted their life to animals . They often deny themselves to eat , in order to cure and to feed the dogs from the shelter, the stray dogs and animals from their house . This year in their very little house with garden live together : 28 dogs + 3 cats + 2 rabbits !

We are now in contact with so loving dogs in spite of all mistreatments , cruelties , irresponsible people . Once again , I receive in the face a good lesson of life . I can say that the animals give us lessons we should be inspired . Most of them have none rancour against Humans Being in spite what they have suffered .

The night , we are housed in Carmena's where new dogs welcome us with plenty of joy like Marc handicapped of his back legs . He walks with little wheels very proud to show us his speed and even inside the house when wheels are putted away , this little angel shows us he's one of the chief ! We could cry about him, we could say it should be better to kill him , it's not a life for a dog but it will be again bad preconceptions ! And however this little dog wants to live , he's happy to live ; you can see it in his eyes in his behaviour , life is everywhere into, inside him !

The day after , we go back to the shelter . In a kind of building near the shelter, there are a lot of puppies who took a little mistreated and abandoned female dog for their own mother + 2 other adults dogs with legs crashed by cars . Last year , in this building there was a dog with bullet into a leg ; it was a Saturday , it should wait the Monday morning to the vet comes because he doesn't work the week end and he's about 200 km away from here ! The vets all around don't know how to neuter so operate for bullets or any kind of operations !!!
The emergencies for animals don't exist over there . It 's disarming . This is to what Carmena is confronted 7 days a week , 365 days a year . Obviously holydays don't exist for her .

It 's the end of afternoon , we have to think to go back to Belgrad because our shelter Oaza needs us . But we don't really want to leave . In front of all the sadness of Carmena we stay and discuss about her needs and about the animals conditions in Romania . To make them forget their problems and their daily for a while , we want and insist to invite them to diner outside; but they refuse because they can't leave all animals from home !

On the road to Carmena's house , we often stop because stray dogs know her car very well and she always has in the boot of the car food for dogs even if she hasn't food for herself everyday ! When we arrive to Carmena's house , she goes out to feed stray dogs in neighbourhood , Patrick follows her . We help Patricia for diner .

Monday the 25th of July 2005 , we got up at 5 a.m. to go back to Belgrad . But breakfast takes long time because Carmena doesn't want us to leave . Patricia and Carmena are outside to feed dogs ;
Patrick , Christian and I are alone and Patrick asks us :" and if I buy a washing machine to Carmena ? " Of course we go to make shopping and Patrick buys the washing machine and we bring it to the shelter . It will be used to wash the blankets for dogs but I hope to wash their own clothes too ; because the arrival water of the house is only outside in the garden at the end of a pipe ! This very cold water is used to wash dishes , clothes and to have a wash ( spring- summer- autumn- winter ! ) Can you imagine yourself the winter into the snow in the garden to have a wash with very cold water by : - 26° outside ?!

Then we are sick at heart and leave them ; they have so many needs and so less helps . This summer again the associations Respectons and Bourdon gave money for 5 tones of food . In the year Christian and I tried to help ( very modestly) financially , but it 's so much derisive for the needs of PRO ANIMALS . The go back trip is practically silent .

I 'm in a rage because it 's always those who have nothing who make the most ! If only I have enough money to build the new shelter that PRO ANIMALS needs , but unfortunately it's not the case !

Carmena and Patricia , you have all my respect ! Your courage , your tenacity and your devotion to animals are exemplary . Stand firm , keep on your weekly salvages , because everything you do for animals is magnificent , grand and animals by their way make it to know you everyday !

Bravo for them!"
Sandrine Pinheiro
RESPECTONS, France

July 2005

Antonella's diary - the vet sent by Wetnose Animal Aid.

Wednesday 6th
I arrived in Romania at 5,30 p.m. and I was shocked by the dogs in the streets! A lot, always looking for food or a stroke, they look very friendly. Their dream? To find a good owner! I and Patricia talked together on the phone, and I am waiting for her tomorrow.


Thursday 7th
Patricia came to collect me in the afternoon. In my way to the shelter i saw a lot of dogs living on the streets, sleeping there, begging for food. We stopped to feed a puppy, unfortunately too suspicious to be kept;
but Patricia, in her way to collect me, found another puppy, this time on the motorway, and she cope to take him into the car. before doing that she tried to take as many fleas as she could from him, but it wasnt completely possible, so we had not only a puppy as a journey mate ( but a lot of fleas :) That's why he was called ''Flea Bag''.... Flea for his friends!



Friday 8th
I went to the shelter to take the stuff I've carried with me from England.
The shelter it's completely packed, there are a lot of kennels for the dogs but they are allowed to wander all over the shelter during the day., so they can exercise.
Almost everyday Patricia and Carmena have one or two new dogs. In our way to the shelter we took a little old dog that was found in the morning, a little old lady with a skin problem. And before I left the shelter, a little scared puppy, completely covered in fleas and ticks,was taken there.
Also everyday something happens. In fact, few days ago, a sweety dog, named Marutu, caught his leg trying to go to the courtyard of the shelter because he wanted to do exercise. At the moment he has a big wound that needs to be treated.
Today I was touched by an old, very maternal lady that shows a vaginal tumour. She is looking after 5 orphans and she doesnt care about her but about them. Now they are living into the room near the shelter where Patricia and Carmena usually keep and treat the sick dogs.
In the shelter I saw three dogs with three legs, one dog with a blocked leg and a dog with half ears. THey have to thank very kind people. Now, I am waiting for tomorrow.


Saturday 9th July
I went to help the vet of the shelter this afternoon. The hygenic conditions are terrible, there's no room for what they need. The ''surgery'' is in the same place of food, nursery and patient's room. WE spayed four dogs, two were pregnant and two on the way!
After operation the dogs were put on a bench with a blanket, they haven't cages.
Flea stayed all the time between our legs,to be sure we did well and finally fell asleep under the table while we were operating. I 've never had a supervisor like him!!
Patricia and Carmena are waiting for permits and donations to build a new shelter with a real little surgery where to operate and treat the dogs in more hygenic conditions. But it's still a long way!
Like for the car!!! They would need a little van to carry the dogs and the stuff safety. Instead to put them into their old car...... inevitably full of fleas ( look my legs!), but an old second hand van is very expensive for them, it costs about 2000 Euros or more while the normal salary is about 150 Euros.............so, no way!!


Sunday 10th July
There isn't rest if you are running a shelter!!! We started, as everyday, going to the hospital to get some food for the dogs and to feed some puppies living there; But this morning another surprise.......... A woman working at the hospital gave us a puppy, she said it was found but later we realized it was hers. Its name is Betty and now she's living in the shelter. She doesn't work to stay, she is scared of the dogs, she isn't used to live with them and she spent all the afternoon asking to be adopted. She 's very sweet and her sad face is lovely.
At the shelter we had a look to the dogs spayed yesterday and then Patricia, Carmena, the employee carried on with the normal routine: cleaning the shelter, feeding the dogs, and doing the treatment the dogs need.
Some dogs have scabies and they need special treatment but it's difficult to get the medicine they need all the time. It's a very hard job!!!
At the shelter, there's a young female behaving strangely, it seems a brain problem, but it's impossible to investigate the cause, we only know that she was hardly beaten by the municipality's catchers.
A lot of dogs have sad terrible stories here, but they can't speak!
In Romania many dogs try to survive on the street eating what they find, often only rubbish!! It's a fortune if you live at the shelter!!!
At the end of the day in her way back Carmena feeds some friends and this evening we've got a new friend,she was wandering wounded. And now she has a name: Capri and at the moment she stays at home.


Monday 11th July
This morning began as everyday, we went to the hospital to get some food, as usual we met our friends waiting for lunch there, Carmena fed them and I was taking some pictures when a very rude man ( to be polite!!) came shouting at us, he didnt want us to help the dogs!!! Patricia said that this often happen, sometimes it's dicey because you could be beaten as Carmena was.

In our way to the shelter, we got a phone call.......another problem!!! The municipal dog catchers brought at the shelter 5 dogs, they shouldnt have done it but they did. They usually kill them in the day time.
Big problem because the shelter is overcrowded. I had a look at their van.........it's absolutely amaizing. How can they use a vehicle like that? There isn't any opening to let the dogs breath, moreover the van is too old, the back net is broken in many spots and it's all rusty....if you step on it you could faint because the stench.
THe dogs inside were literarly frightened and one of them screamed when he was taken to the kennel ( look pictures) we had a bad time with the german shepherd, very agressive and scared, he tried to bite and it was difficult to take him out and find a place for him, he had to be chained. Probably he has an owner because he wares a collar. Carmena called the local radio station to give the news to find the owner.
I took some pictures of the tools used by the dogs' catchers, they look like torture tools and can be dangerous for the dogs and , I think, completely useless!! Finally, they used the catching pole ( given by Wetnose) borrowed from the shelter.

After all that it started raining and I came back to the hotel. THis morning I talked to Patricia because I saw it's very difficult for them running a shop and a shelter at the same time. In fact the shelter keeps them busy all day long and they cant keep an eye on the shop, so that their business isn't so good now, and this is terrible because they are using their own money to run the shelter and the things are getting worse.
They havent got volunteers at the shelter and they have to stay there all day so that they cant go at the shop.
I have been here for four days and they've got 10 new dogs.
Tonight I had a good news. the german shepherd has found his owner.


Sunday 17th July
After a short experience in a mobile clinic now I am back at the shelter of Patricia and Carmena and I've got a fantastic news : Betty, the little sweet puppy has been adopted!!! I'm very glad because the shelter's life was a nightmare for her, she needed a family.......... she was an household dog. Patricia and Carmena took some pictures of her and the new owner and by now they'll keep an eye on her to be sure everything is going well.

They are working hard to make sure a good life to their dogs. I am not surprised they havent got time for anything else.
Today, they had 6 new entries, a female with 5 puppies was abandoned. In our way back, Carmena asked a neighbor if he wanted to go to the shelter because she had found a Sibirian Husky, knowing that he lost a dog like that, so tomorrow he's coming.


Monday 18 th July
Today, we went to the hospital,as usual, but they had run out of food ( this often happen). So, Carmena fed the dogs there. When we got the shelter, the neighbor we met yesterday came, the dog , a beautiful husky reconigzed him and was so happy jumped into the car through the window , it was very funny!!!
Two other good news : the dog with the vaginas tumor is getting better so like the dogs with the wound in his leg , the treatments Carmena gives them are working.
At the shelter, I met our friend Flea, he's getting well with everybody, he's making the best of circumstances is incredible, he 's a real romanian's dog !
This afternoon I was into the shelter when I felt s light touch on my arm, it was Fetitza, a dog we spayed ten days ago, she recognized me and came to say Hello and kiss me; I love her, she's so swetty, unfortunately I cant take her back to England with me.
Later, Carmena took me to another dog, she lives near the shelter, on a cartoon box and everyday she is waiting for Carmena to have food and cuddles. She's very nice and asked me to be stroken ( look pictures).

When I see what Patricia and Carmena are doing for the dogs i feel glad but there are always many problems, for example the food............. the shelter needs 5 tones a months of dry food. But Carmena can get only 2 tones a month by an association and 2 tones every 4 month by another association but she doesnt know if she can get them next month because nothing is sure. So, she has to provide it with her own money and is not enough. WE hope to get some food from the hospital tomorrow.





Thusday 19th July
Today it's been a normal routine day at the shelter. This morning Patricia and I, in our way, met a stray dog with a big lack of fur on her back. Patricia stopped the car and tried to approach her but she was so scared that cryed and run away; then Patricia bought some bread to feed her but no way again. She was too frightened and I can understand why.... she had a huge sore on her back as like someone had spilt some boiled water on her, the skin was red and sweating pus. Unfortunately, we couldnt give her the bread and take any pictures because she dissapeared very quickly. We hope to meet her again next days.
At the shelter, I examined some dogs and treated others for scabies,it's very common in Romania. Demodex is a parasite caught from the parents so it would be better to spay and castrate all the stray dogs to stop them breeding but the authorities dont accept this, they just want to kill all of them. Patricia and Carmena are fighting to make them understand about that and other matters.


Wednesday 20 th July
When we get the shelter today, the employee said that there were abandoned two new dogs, a big male with something round his neck as a collar and a little puppy with a deep wound infected with larves and a terrible stench. Fortunately, I could clean and disinfect the wound, then the puppy was put into a cartoon box with a material net on the top to stop flyes.
Last night there was a terrible storm; lightings, thunders and wind, the dogs at the shelter were literally frightened and one of them, named Ursu, jumped over the fence to protect himself digging a big hole under a tree close the shelter...............if he knew it's very dangerous to stay under trees during storms!
After feeding the dogs Carmena went to feed the dog living close the shelter, near by there is an old habited house where a little kitten was found yesterday and Carmena gave some food to her as well.
Today it's been very hot, working at the shelter is a nightmare with this temperature I couldnt stand long in the sun and Carmena too didnt feel well, she had to stop for a while and we were very worried because she has a heart problem and high temperature could be a problem for her ( and in winter time it's freezing ). She should rest but she cant , the shelter's dogs need her everyday........


Thursday 21th July
This morning patricia and Carmena went to Vulcan to meet the mayor and discuss about the stray dogs situation. Unfortunately, he couldnt be found and , althought they tried many times, they weren't allowed to get into the municipal shelter. They brought some intimations to the city hall and to the police regarding the stray dogs situation and are waiting for their reply. Also, they were to Bumbesti -Jiu to meet the vice mayor and see the small shelter that they built for the programme of Neuter and Return.
In their way, they collected me in their way back and then we went to the shelter where a bad news was waiting for us, the sick puppy that came with the municipal dog cathers was dead. We treated him but unfortunately it was useless. And you havent time to cry for the little puppy, the dogs need to be fed and treated and there are the dogs and the kitten living near the shelter. They must be fed and stroken everyday, they are very sweet.

In the evening we got home to the ''household shelter'' ( now they are only 26 dogs, 2 cats and 2 rabbits) , they must be fed as well and after dinner Carmena took me to the land across her house where a dogs' family is living ( look pictures).
Most of the dogs in this town know and love Carmena, they recognize her car, they kiss her and people call her '' The mother of the dogs''.


Friday 22 th July
Today, we went to the rubbish- heap to check if there were stray dogs dead. In fact, the municipal dog catchers are used to take the dogs there and hunters shoot them. We met people working at the rubbish-heap and asked them some information, a boy said that the hunters shot some dogs by a little lake close the rubbish-heap. We went there but no sign of them. Later, we asked other people and after a long discussion they confessed that the dogs were shot at the rubbish heap and then covered with the rubbish, it was impossible to find any sign of them. That place is a nightmare, there is a terrible stench and dogs everywhere, between them I saw a beautiful big dog that was shot on the neck but he didnt die. An old woman close to him and stroking him, proudly said that she gave the hunters a dog to be shot.

In our way back, we stopped to check a dog adopted from the shelter. There were two dogs chained, and one without water ( Patricia provided that ). they looked well but the chain was short and they couldnt move a lot. Carmena said she doesnt like to see her dogs kept like that.
This morning Patricia and Carmena found a scabby puppy ( for that she was named Scabi) and it was a problem because there is no more room in the shelter but, as I learnt, it's a neverending story..........
The employee said that a policeman abandoned some puppies in the water near the shelter, we went to have a look and after a while we found some little puppies ( one was dead with flies inside - look pictures).............. In the house nearby we saw a dog and we tought she was their mother but when we approached her we noticed that she had other puppies. So, we came back with 7 little orphans, 4 puppies and their mother. In total 13 dogs today!!!
One little puppy was covered in larvae and I washed and dried him, then I treated the puppy that two day ago had the wound infected by larvae ( she is getting very well) and all the scabby dogs.
In our way back, we finally met our friend living near Patricia's house, we havent seen him for several days and we were very worried about. He probably had been hit by a car and now he has one leg and the mouth broken. I hope he can be operated by the vet of the mobile clinic next week."

Antonella Vignati, England

December 2004

Wetnose Animal Aid Report re Pro Animals Shelter December 2004

Broad Overview
The shelter is situated on the outskirts of TG Jiu and occupies approx half an acre of land that is on a slight incline It is split broadly into two halves with roofing shelter forming lines on two sides and underneath separated into largish pens suitable for up to four dogs with suitable basic kennelling for vast majority of dogs
All is suitably fenced, both on perimeter and individual pens with anti jump netting in place. The ground is concreted, quite roughly and there are numerous containers around with plenty of clean water, both in communal areas in the pens The area was very clean and no smell was evident.

Facilities
The facilities are by UK standards very basic, but we must remember that Romania is only 15 years out of being a Communist state and that is 50 to 100 years in the past!
All is very clean, kennels have their straw changed daily, the feed is complete and fed from the floor. This reduces washing up etc
Despite the harsh conditions, the dogs do seem to adjust to the hot and cold conditions. Amazingly coats that are put on are in many cases ripped off, as they seem to prefer 'au natural'! More coats therefore for the dogs in the sick bay !. There are inevitably a number of the dogs that are underweight, but these generally are the new arrivals, and it is a matter of time to get them 'fattened up! Frankly in the circumstances it is not surprising. The point is that they are well and do continue to improve.
There is a separate building adjacent to the main shelter that is used for storage in one area and sick bay in another. Washing facilities with bedding plus heat via oil filled 'Dimplex' style heater and radiator heater The artificial lighting could be improved.

Veterinary care
Carmena Serbanoiu is a fully qualified Veterinary Practitioner from Bucharest University She is able to buy medicines, but not drugs to care for the dogs, and clearly is not a Veterinary Surgeon ( nor does she profess to be one either) ·
- On your headed paper, Carmena is an Zoo Engineer. Is that the same a zoologist and forgive me asking...........fully qualified?. Reason is that for overseas parties...........the word engineer does not help with animals, but zoologist does
I graduated The Veterinary Medicine and Zootehny University, from Bucharest, specialised in Zootechny. Fully qualified.
This university exists only in Romania and URSS. It's an university known everywhere, I have collegues in USA who are working there. I don't think there's a correct translation in other languages. This university is based in special on Management and Technology in animals' domain and Veterinary Medicine. I made classes like: Animal Genetics, Animal Anatomy, Animals Physiology etc but also, Technology of Feeding and taking care of animals, and Animal Management. I don't know if you understand much about this but as i've told you it's only in Romania and URSS, this specialisation, it combines somehow the information about animals health, grow, feeding etc etc with the one of animal management.

Funds are simply not available for any mass vaccination programme, the main requirement is stop breeding and Pro Animals policy here is Neuter and Adoption. Their belief is that the neutering is the only humane and efficient way of reducing the stray dogs number. Here in Tg-Jiu, they can't return dogs to the streets - like in Carbunesti - because the mayor does not accept this programme and the dogs would be caught by the flayers and killed, as happened about 4 years ago)

Euthanasia
Please see attached comments from Carmena that also cover some other points.
- Have you ever had a vet 'euthanise'a dog at the shelter?...............is it a humane injection or is the ?T61 that makes dog suffer? have any or many been euthanised please
Although may seem incredible, euthanasia in Tg-Jiu is not made by any vet in legal conditions. They use substances that are legally forbidden which puts the dogs through terrible pains.. The vets do not make any anesthetic before the 'euthanasia'.
Some people told me that they were to vets in order to put to sleep their dogs and said that they've assisted at nightmare scenes; dogs were having convulsions, screamed etc
When we had dogs who had severe health problems( very few, luckly), we made appeal at a foundation from Pitesti who had other possibilties and they came and took them. We had dogs hit by cars, with big injuries,bitten etc that when the vet with whom we co-operate saw them , he said that the dog will never recover and we must euthanise him, we didn't accepted, we operated him, took good care and now are healthy in the shelter ( and home).
For example, some time ago a person abandoned a very sick dog at the shelter, that was suffering very very bad, and I wanted from all my heart to stop him to suffer. I phoned the vets from Tg-Jiu asking them to come and euthanise him or I go to their offices but none accepted.
I was once more convinced that they are using illegal substances and they didn't want me to see this. If I had the substances for euthanasia I would have made him ( because he was suffering very very bad and nothing could be done) but unfortunately I don't have this substances.

- Are you able to give any figures as to number of dogs neutered over say one year?
In generally in the shelter, all the females are neutered. We neuter all the females that are entering the shelter and puppies ( females) which grew and are adult. The number on every year varies but this year were neutered about 95 dogs. Now, in the shelter, are 16 females that need to be neutered but here , as you've seen, it's very cold and we have no warm place to keep them after surgery.

- To gave an approximate cost of running the shelter on a monthly basis. I know that is varies..........this will give us a figure to try and get money for food bills etc
About 4500 Euro ( like on the website, adding also a vet, one watchman and another worker who will be more then useful because when Tica wants a day off I can't work alone)

Wetnose had thought of ways of procuring pentobarbitone solution to offer proper euthanasia facility) but has subsequently been advised by Carmena that she is not allowed to have or use pentobarbitone so it's no use to send it. If the police were to find out that she had these drugs like pentobarbitone, they could very well arrest her These drugs have to have special licence in Romania, is included in the drugs category (like Phenobarbital, for epilepsy). Just a vet, fully qualified, can have and use these drugs with approval from the police.


General Care and Husbandry
Every dog is inspected every day by Carmena and as well the kennel hand Ticca monitors as he is doing is daily chores. It should be mentioned that he works some 70 hours a week and only has two days off a month The dogs love him and he is like a Godfather to them.
Kennels contain mixed sexes, but bitches and dogs are kept separate at the outset of coming into season and every effort is made to neuter every female that enters the shelter as soon as possible in order to avoid them to come into season
Sick dogs are cared for in the Building mentioned by Carmena as the vets (see attached report from Carmena) are as good as useless in the local area

- Can you get a vet to the Shelter if needed, or do they always request you to take to them for 'routine' matters ( I think that you Patricia said that the vet said that he could come over in 1 hour but might take up to week in reality )
The vet with whom we co-operate ( that patricia told about) comes only for neutering when we ask him, but very rare, motivating that he has no time. When we had grave problems we brought the dogs to vets offices but we are very dissapointed,because the vets have no experience and are not interested to real help the animal. Because they are stray dogs, they do not care ( the truth is that they do not know much about diseases and surgeries).
Here are three categories of vets: - old ones who worked all their life only with cows and pigs and never with dogs or cats, - middle age vets who work at sanitary Direction and worked all their life with papers not animals, - the young ones who have no experience and know nothing.
All ask a lot of money for anything, and unfortunately here exists only one vet ( the one with whom we cooperate) that knows to neuter good.
Usually when I have problems , like you saw at the shelter, I phone vets I know from Bucharest or Pitesti, who give me suggestions of what I must do.

I saw no evidence of neglect/cruelty (either deliberate or unintentional). In fact to the contrary……..total dedication in the face of great hardship and adversity


Conclusion
Pro Animals has committed itself long term by selling property that has now bought some 10 acres of land to build new shelter on
It desperately needs money for this capital investment and to continue improving day to day care
There is almost no point improving the current site as it is owned by the Council who under current Mayorship are hell bent on total stray dog annihilation in the most cruel of circumstances be it by clubbing, stabbing, garrotting with wire, shooting, injecting with gasoline in the hearts etc or with forbidden substances along with magnesium sulphate and strychnine that results in agonising deaths at the hands of would you believe local vets?
It is accepted that there are too many dogs, but to cull is outside any caring dog persons' acceptance. You just work at neutering and gradually the situation will improve along with re education at all levels
Would we cull the Ethiopians or people from Darfur because there were too many? I think not

The sooner that Pro Animals are out of current site the better

I am convinced that Wetnose is right in its support of Pro Animals. I am aware that cynics might feel that an elaborate show may have been laid on. Dogs make lousy actors, they don't lie! The happy and well attitude was very evident despite old and worn facilities
Carmena has stated that she is very happy to receive comments from me re the running and I believe that is a very positive step forward

Finally I attach an article that I have written that we are pursuing for publication. I have emphasised the emotional side for the 'aaahhh' factor, but every word and feeling is true

Gavin Gamby-Boulger
Director
Wetnose Animal Aid

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Wetnose visit to Pro Animals Shelter in Tg Jui Romania December 2004

Wetnose Animal Aid has been supporting Pro Animals now for several months and had been impressed by the good work that was being done there under the leadership of Carmena Serbaniou and her daughter Patricia
We were aware that conditions in Romania are very different to that of the UK and indeed the rest of Europe, and had always taken that into consideration
However, reports were coming to us as to how bad things were out there at this shelter and that maybe Wetnose should take a closer look. We decided that we would make our own investigation and on Wednesday 8 December 2004, I left for a short visit, having announced my intention a few days before, advising Patricia that I would take up her offer to visit them.
After arriving at Bucharest airport at midnight, we then drove some 350 km to Tg Jiu and I was finally introduced to Patricia's father, who incredibly was there dressed to greet me at 4.50 in the morning. Would I like some coffee? No thank you just some sleep!!

Patricia collected me at 0900 and took me to meet Carmena who welcomed with open arms at their little house, along with the 18 various dogs who were there barking at the tops of their voices, in a harmonious greeting! After a hearty breakfast, we were off to first the local hospital, to collect some broth that was left over from the patients and that was very good for the dogs, particularly the puppies and those in the sick bay over

Finally, we arrived at the shelter, having seen on the way, quite a number of 'strays' and unwanted dogs roaming the streets, thin, scavenging and the limping remnants of unwanted pets. I was beginning to feel uncomfortable at what lay ahead of me at the shelter

I have run a dog rescue centre for twelve years in the UK and re homed in the region of 500 plus dogs a year, and thought that I was relatively hardened to pleading eyes and the plight of the homeless, but I was totally unprepared for the sight that was before me as we arrived at the shelter

THREE HUNDRED PLUS happy doggie voices thunderously barking greeted our arrival, clamouring at the gates to say hello and welcome, pushing and shoving to get to the front to meet the new arrival………me!
We forced our way through the gate and I was now surrounded by the Pro Animals 300 plus residents, who crowded round me, jumping up to lick and express their interest in this strange man. I almost felt like a pop star for a moment!
As I wandered around, with dogs of all shapes and sizes following trustingly behind, listening as I spoke to them in my strange English tongue, I took in the harsh conditions, the very basic conditions that were these dogs' home.


For a moment I stopped, just in total awe of this incredible haven for these unwanted dogs, desperately by now trying to stem and conceal the waves of raw emotion that were now pouring down my cheeks………. a big German Shepherd (named Lupitzu) jumped up to me and buried his head in my shoulders, nuzzling and crooning to me…….I gave up……….I let the dam break and I sobbed my heart out… with this strange big dog, called Lupitzu……..

Romania is it seems a 100 years behind in time, and the attitude and living conditions are so very different to us. I recalled that it was only 15 years ago that this country was a Communist state, and that local government/council was all powerful, and you did not challenge them. Attitudes are changing of course, but it takes time.

It is an uphill struggle, as the shelter is owned by the Council, and the local policy is to annihilate every stray in the city with the 'flayers' who round up these unfortunates, and kill them by any method imaginable. The lucky ones escape, and some find safety at the Pro Animals shelter. The local mayor holds the Sword of Damocles over their head, threatening to evict all at any minute

Everything is not perfect, but the love, total dedication and care across the board from Carmena, Patricia and the kennel hand Ticca is very evident in this big canine family and the evidence that they were loved back by the dogs shone through
Carmena has even sold their own home, and with the proceeds bought approx 10 acres of lovely countryside on the edge of Tg Jiu where in time, and hopefully very soon, construction can begin on a new shelter and orphanage, independent of local authority, where all animals from the current site can go, and others can come in to safety, warmth, and care, away from this dreadful persecution

I returned to the UK convinced that Pro Animals are very worthy of support and Wetnose Animal Aid is even more totally committed to helping them realise this very, very necessary need………there is so much to do

I hope that having read this you will contact us with your help …….thank you

Gavin Gamby-Boulger
Director
Wetnose Animal Aid
01508.518.650
Ms. Dawn Elliot from "Wetnose
www.wetnose-campaign.com

July 2004

"When I see animals in cages I'm very sad. I was sad when I saw this, but when I make a relation with what I saw in France I realize that is a more humane relation because they can be free, run, play, stay together, have a sociability condition. All the dogs are in a very good condition, are healthy. In many shelters that I've seen it's not like this, here you clean three times a day so I find it very clean also." Patrick Sacco ,"RESPECTONS", France

It's true that animals in a cage is not great but it's better than nothing , taking into account the condition of the dogs from Romania. If you find a bigger place with trees, it's better for the dogs. What surprise me most is that there are 300 dogs and it's clean. Most of the dogs are healthy, clean and are socialized. What you did it's great for the dogs. They have the chance to have you in their way, they found a place for reabilitation, they are lucky to find you or...you are lucky to find them. The conditions in the shelter are very good, the shelter is good for them but they will be better in the new place, bitum is not good for them. It would be time that people be responsible to animals who are not objects, they are alive, need respect, human beings must have a conscience, they must be responsible." Sandrine Pinheiro, "RESPECTONS", France

September 2003

"About one year ago someone received a letter from Tg-Jiu and gave it to us just as a notice. It was an S.O.S. The animal lovers from the city were terrified by the illegal way that the local authorities were acting. The collected dogs were transported somewhere, no one knows where, killed right in the day that are caught, with the most barbarian ways.
It was talking also about a private funded shelter, physical and moral overfulfilled of the situation. We remembered us, when with some time ago, we were trying to save the dogs from death and were knocking together a shelter, when we took a responsability much higher than we could offer, when we didn't have the necessary food to feed the dogs from the shelter, when there was no legislation against dogs' killing, and we didn't have any power to say NO from the legally point of view.

Several persons from our association headed in a weekend towards the Dog Shelter from Tg-Jiu. Because we knew that it is financially supported almost only from the own budget of one family, because only this family was working actually at the shelter, we were waiting to find something miserable. The reality amazed us:
A shelter with 250 well-kept dogs, a clean shelter, where all the commonplace things, useless for the most of us, found its utility. The romanian endeavour with the strong motivation of doing as much as possible from nothing.
What impressed us very strong was the sociability of the dogs. An imprisoned dog can be indifferent and refractory. They were happy and for them, "home", meant that place. Almost all the dogs had names. Each had a history or a story well-known by their benefactors.
For two people to take care of them, to give each one attention daily, to offer a special care for those with problems, to earn money to keep them, to involve outside the shelter, is above the general level of understanding. But the love helps you find the power to do everything.

Unfortunately, in Tg-Jiu, the only dogs that are safe are those from the shelter. And these people who offer them a home and who are looking continuously over its fence, try to save as many dogs as possible from the others, who are heading everyday towards dead. But how many? Can two people feed and take care of an entire city. Not even they do not realize this. When the flayers' van full of dogs pass in front of them, their knees reach the ground in a heavenly begging :" Leave us the dogs". The suffering is too much for them.........to see, ignore and say to yourself "I can't take them all".

Carmen Arsene
Asociatia Ute Langenkamp: Iubiti Maidanezii"

May 2003

"During the past two years, I have served as a senior privatization advisor to the Government of Romania regarding the development of an overall strategic plan for selling off state-owned power generation assets and their associated lignite mines to the private sector. In this capacity, I have had the opportunity to visit many towns and sites throughout the Jiu Valley, and have spent many rewarding days and evenings becoming better acquainted with various members of the local community including power plant managers, union leaders, plant workers, miners, and especially every day citizens who are trying against formidable odds to improve the overall quality and civility of life in this part of Romania.

It is this last category and aspect of my job that has given me the most fulfillment and enjoyment during my work efforts in Romania over the past two years. In particular, I am referring to the pleasure of meeting dedicated individuals in the community--such as Ms. Carmena Serbanoiu and her family--who work long, selfless, and uncompensated hours trying to make Targu-Jiu a better and more civilized place to live in for a hard working populace that has fallen upon difficult economic times resulting from numerous mine and factory closures with their attendant layoffs and job losses.

With tireless devotion to the dignity of both the human spirit and a love of helpless animals who no longer have homes, food, or access to veterinary care, Ms. Serbanoiu and her family have shared their hearts and lives with over 200 abandoned dogs by providing them with much needed food, shelter, love, and as much medical care as she can afford out of her limited income as a shopkeeper. Without her diligent efforts and hard work, these animals would long ago have been desiccated corpses along the side of a some country road, and the community as a whole would be worse off as a result of its final loss of even the faintest semblance and veneer of a civil society.

However, this wonderful, God loving family cannot continue to carry both the joy and the full burden of this work by themselves. The task remains daunting, especially with a thoughtless and oftentimes hostile local government that has threatened to shut down her privately funded shelter and evict Ms. Serbanoiu and her animals from the premises which she so lovingly maintains at no cost to the taxpayers and community at large. In short, they desperately need help and support--both from responsible Romanian governmental institutions and especially animal lovers throughout out the broader and more civilized world beyond the borders of this struggling and oftentimes hapless country.
Without sounding overly pessimistic, it is unlikely that local government will do anything to support such home-grown voluntary efforts. Indeed, the current local administration is guilty of transcending the bounds of human dignity by organizing the senseless slaughter of homeless animals that are not presently protected within her shelter complex.
The means of disposal that have been recently sponsored and deployed by local government officials include the indiscriminate shooting by specially organized hunting parties and the brutal rounding up and clubbing to death of homeless animals in communities throughout the Jiu Valley, as well as the lethal injection of gasoline into the veins of animals that are captured alive.

So what can be done to stop this inhumane behavior and senseless slaughter while at the same time make it possible for Ms. Serbanoiu and her organization, Proanimals, to continue to be of service to the community through the voluntary efforts of her organization and the dedicated few who are trying to put a civilized face on a difficult situation? Actually, there are two very important actions that animal lovers and responsible citizens in Romania and elsewhere can undertake. These include:
(1) Writing letters or sending e-mails to the Mayor of Targu-Jiu protesting this senseless slaughter and the lack of commitment on the part of local government and authorities to more civilized and responsible courses of action such as the spaying and neutering of animals that have been turned loose by citizens who are experiencing extreme economic distress. In addition, local government could also be urged to deed suitable land to Proanimals for the continued caring of homeless animals through private voluntary efforts if it feels that it has insufficient funds to care for these animals through budgeted funds. In this regard, the address of the Mayor of Targu-Jiu is presented below:
(2) Finally, Proanimals desperately needs donations of both money and medicine to continue caring for animals already within their shelter complex, as well as to put a down payment on its own land so that it will no longer face the constant harassment and threat of being shut down and evicted from its current premises (which is located on vacant land under the control of local authorities) for calling media and public attention to this appalling situation.
In this final regard, donations can be sent to:
Carmena Serbanoiu
Bd. Republicii, Bl.11, Ap 16;
Tg-Jiu, Gorj, Romania

Animal lovers everywhere unite, and let your conscience be your guide!"

Kendrick W. Wentzel
President and Chief Executive Officer
Enertech International, Inc.
48 Greenwood Shoals, Suite 200
Grasonville, Maryland 21638
Tel: (410) 827-0520
Fax: (410) 827-6808
E-mail - enertech@friend.ly.net


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